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	<title>Sixteen Small Stones &#187; milton</title>
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		<title>If Mormons Aren&#8217;t Christian Then Is John Milton Christian?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently, Brother Micheal Otterson, who is the media relations director for the LDS Church, wrote a wonderful essay on whether or not Mormons are Christians. I recognize that Creedal Christians have a specialized definition of &#8220;Christian,&#8221; and Later-day Saints are not &#8220;Christians&#8221; by that definition. Latter-day Saints, they say, are not Christians because they reject [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, Brother Micheal Otterson, who is the media relations director for the LDS Church, wrote a <a href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2007/12/are_mormons_christians.html">wonderful essay</a> on whether or not Mormons are Christians.</p>
<p>I recognize that Creedal Christians have a specialized definition of &#8220;Christian,&#8221; and Later-day Saints are not &#8220;Christians&#8221; by that definition.</p>
<p>Latter-day Saints, they say, are not Christians because they reject the Trinitarian doctrine of the Nicaean Creed, and instead believe in a Godhead of three separate beings (Father, Son, and Holy Ghost) who are one in purpose.</p>
<p>Aside from the question of how Protestants square Creedal Cristianity with their doctrine of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scriptura"><em>Sola Scriptura</em></a>, we should examine whether they apply their creedal definition consistently?</p>
<p>I remember the first time that I read John Milton&#8217;s <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/26"><em>Paradise Lost</em></a> discovering that Milton presented God the Father and Jesus as two distinct beings.  In particular this passage where the Father asks the equivalent of the famous <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/abr/3/27#27">Whom shall I send?</a> query in LDS scripture:</p>
<blockquote><p>
To prayer, repentance, and obedience due,<br />
Though but endeavour&#8217;d with sincere intent,<br />
Mine ear shall not be slow, mine eye not shut.<br />
And I will place within them as a guide,<br />
My umpire Conscience; whom if they will hear,<br />
Light after light, well us&#8217;d, they shall attain,<br />
And to the end, persisting, safe arrive.<br />
This my long sufferance, and my day of grace,<br />
They who neglect and scorn, shall never taste;<br />
But hard be harden&#8217;d, blind be blinded more,<br />
That they may stumble on, and deeper fall;<br />
And none but such from mercy I exclude.<br />
But yet all is not done; Man disobeying,<br />
Disloyal, breaks his fealty, and sins<br />
Against the high supremacy of Heaven,<br />
Affecting God-head, and, so losing all,<br />
To expiate his treason hath nought left,<br />
But to destruction sacred and devote,<br />
He, with his whole posterity, must die,<br />
Die he or justice must; unless for him<br />
Some other able, and as willing, pay<br />
The rigid satisfaction, death for death.<br />
Say, heavenly Powers, where shall we find such love?<br />
Which of you will be mortal, to redeem<br />
Man&#8217;s mortal crime, and just the unjust to save?<br />
Dwells in all Heaven charity so dear?<br />
He ask&#8217;d, but all the heavenly quire stood mute,<br />
And silence was in Heaven: on Man&#8217;s behalf<br />
Patron or intercessour none appear&#8217;d,<br />
Much less that durst upon his own head draw<br />
The deadly forfeiture, and ransom set.
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<p>In Milton&#8217;s story, the question is asked after Lucifer has been ejected from Heaven, whereas in LDS doctrine it was, in part, his response to a similar question that lead to the expulsion of Lucifer along with those that agreed with him.  But the similarity is striking.</p>
<p>Milton continues with the response from a pre-mortal Jesus, distinct from the Father:</p>
<blockquote><p>
And now without redemption all mankind<br />
Must have been lost, adjudg&#8217;d to Death and Hell<br />
By doom severe, had not the Son of God,<br />
In whom the fulness dwells of love divine,<br />
His dearest mediation thus renew&#8217;d.<br />
Father, thy word is past, Man shall find grace;<br />
And shall grace not find means, that finds her way,<br />
The speediest of thy winged messengers,<br />
To visit all thy creatures, and to all<br />
Comes unprevented, unimplor&#8217;d, unsought?<br />
Happy for Man, so coming; he her aid<br />
Can never seek, once dead in sins, and lost;<br />
Atonement for himself, or offering meet,<br />
Indebted and undone, hath none to bring;<br />
Behold me then:  me for him, life for life<br />
I offer: on me let thine anger fall;<br />
Account me Man; I for his sake will leave<br />
Thy bosom, and this glory next to thee<br />
Freely put off, and for him lastly die<br />
Well pleased; on me let Death wreak all his rage.
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<p>For Milton, even in a heavenly, pre-incarnation state, Jesus is a distinct being, subordinate to the Father.  In fact, one might argue that Milton presented <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2007/12/11/huckabee-dont-mormons-believe-that-jesus-and-the-devil-are-brothers/">Jesus as the brother of the Devil</a> more than anything that Latter-day Saints espouse.</p>
<p>Milton&#8217;s description of God&#8217;s &#8220;Umpire Conscience,&#8221; quoted in the first passage above, is very similar to LDS doctrine of The Light of Christ (compare <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/moro/7/12-19#12">Moroni 7:12-19</a> ) and Personal Revelation (compare <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/alma/12/10-11#10">Alma 12:10-11</a> ).</p>
<p>In an unpublished work attributed to Milton, discovered many years after his death, called <em>De doctrina christiana</em>, he even went as far as to express support for polygamy.</p>
<p>(Just to be clear, by pointing out some similarities between John Milton&#8217;s Christian beliefs and those of Mormons, I am not trying to imply that there aren&#8217;t plenty of doctrines we disagree about.)</p>
<p>So, despite the fact that John Milton held many views deemed heretical and in particular rejected creedal Trinitarianism, Christianity Today still lists him among the <a href="http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product/p=1006325&#38;?item_no=90404">131 Christians Everyone Should Know</a>  and few would say that Paradise Lost is not a Christian work.</p>
<p>It is my impression that most Creedal Christians consider John Milton one of the &#8220;great Christian writers&#8221; as he is explicitly labeled in <a href="http://www.crosswalk.com/root/spirituallife/1382992/page0/">this essay</a> on the Christian website <a href="http://www.crosswalk.com">Crosswalk.com</a> .</p>
<p>So, to Creedal Christians, Milton was a great Christian with perhaps some heretical views, but similar views of Latter-day Saints disqualify them from being Christians at all. Huh?</p>
<p>This inconsistency between the application of their definition of &#8220;Christian&#8221; to John Milton and Joseph Smith underscores the fact that their desire isn&#8217;t for doctrinal purity so much as it is for bigoted exclusion.</p>
<p>To prove otherwise, let Creedal Christians demonstrate a consistent application of their definition of Christianity by ejecting Milton and his &#8220;Non-Christian&#8221; works from the fold.  We Mormons will gladly welcome him into ours.</p>
<p>If they are unwilling to revoke Milton&#8217;s Christianity, then they should accept Latter-day Saints for what they are: Christians.</p>
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